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Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:31:00 - [1] Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Wanna Kill I can see why people dont want it back - they were on the wrong side of the guns. If I didn't want to be on the wrong side of anyone's guns in this game I wouldn't live and fight in 0.0, where there are quite a few bigger dangers than the Privateers and afk-travel is an absolute no-no at all times. For Information Purposes only: Mr "I live and fight in 0.0" suffered 5 losses to the Privateer Alliance pre nerf Brutix, Myrm, Executioner, 2x Pods. Maybe this has something to do with his bitter outlook on the privatters. SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.25 22:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson Ah yes. The Privateers. Who wardecked our Alliance last week, So all our PvPers up sticks and head back into Empier for some Pewpew for what? To find one, who promptly docked and logged, and another who scuttled out of system so fast he left skid marks on the gate. Damn! Just realised what we did wrong. We didn't come at them in out PvP noobie ships, PvP haulers and miners. We came in real warships and ready to kick their sorry butts all around Eve. But apparently PA now stands for Permanantly Away. PA added NOTHING to Eve, they are just a set of griefers who can only get their kicks out of attacking those who can't fight back. Good Riddance to the lot of them! Ok 1) You cry like babies to get us nerfed. You alliance was taking a particulaly good kicking from the Privateer alliance at our peak - and your piltos were soem of the most vocal asking CCP to intervene and save you. CCP Duely Save the Universe From The Priateer Threat and sorely nerfs us leaving a small rump 2) You come down with massive PvP force and complain that the few pilots left dont fight your fleet. And complain all we do is run away and kill noobs WELL YOU SHOULDNT HAVE GOT USE NERFED IN THE FIRST PLACE SHOULD YOU Idiot SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.25 23:20:00 - [3] Edited by: Le Skunk on 25/06/2007 23:23:52 23:22:04 Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Wanna Kill I can see why people dont want it back - they were on the wrong side of the guns. If I didn't want to be on the wrong side of anyone's guns in this game I wouldn't live and fight in 0.0, where there are quite a few bigger dangers than the Privateers and afk-travel is an absolute no-no at all times. For Information Purposes only: Mr "I live and fight in 0.0" suffered 5 losses to the Privateer Alliance pre nerf Brutix, Myrm, Executioner, 2x Pods. Maybe this has something to do with his bitter outlook on the privatters. SKUNK God I hate when people use this ridiculous argument. You sound like Ginger Magician when you do that. For Information Purposes only: As far as I remember, I've never died to Privateers, and I still think it was lame. You may not have died but many of your corp mates did. Thus you have a biased opinion of us. I see a particulaly nice mastadon kill where one of you pilots was stupid enough to go AFK in a war. I bet he whined a lot on your fouems - and has given you (a noob at the time) the wrong opinion. At the start - when we had killed only a few - only a very few complained about us. At the end when we had podded 10% of the entire player base - Many people (and their plethora of alts) complained about us. Its not rocket science. Many people are bad losers and think that, contrary to the Dev pronouncments - they are indeed playing hello kitty online. When they got popped - they ** a brick. Most opf the so called 'carebears' dont actually care about anything but their own persoanl wallets. SKUNK EDIT: To be fair - many people who died or killed us had a great attiude and took to fighting us ingame rather then beetchin on the forums. Originally by:** Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:15:00 - [4] Edited by: Le Skunk on 26/06/2007 23:18:26 Edited by: Le Skunk on 26/06/2007 23:14:55 Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Originally by: Heisenburg Principle Do your research beore posting, top 3 priv ship kills: caracal: 1445 drake: 1400 raven: 1096 These don't appear to be defenceless ships. You forgot to add that also in the Top Ten during your peak: Ibis Caldari Shuttle Gallente Shuttle Velator Badger 2 Systems with the most kills: Jita, with over 2x the amount of the next system. Also in the top 4 systems: Rens Amarr Popping lagged-out industrials, shuttles and noobships is such fun Like ive told you many times before.. POST THE COMPLETE STATS TOTAL KILLS: 43,519 SOLO (1 v 1 KILLS): 21,394 2 Dreadnaughts 9 Carriers 26 Freighters 3451 Battleships 3955 Battle Cruisers 360 Elite Battle Cruisers 5015 Cruisers 1058 Elite Cruisers 839 Destroyers 148 Elite Destroyers 3615 Frigates 2965 Elite Frigates 3346 Industrials 224 Transports 528 Barges 50 Elite Mining Barges 2460 Shuttles 2238 Rookie Ships Take what you want from them.. you can support many things SKUNK EDIT 13,086 pods - We pod you . you whine. SKUNK PS Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK /signed !! bring back Privateers I wuv you !! Skunk you had a amazin idea.. & CCP nerfed you .. so so sad :( Cheers Ryan - A guy neve in the Privs with a sensible attitude - But i cannot claim any credit for the idea. Infinity Ziona came up with the idea - Surrpetios expanded it to alliance level untill we were nerfed. Me and sorted put a lot of work in. BC hastings + team took control at a very rocky time. Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:24:00 - [5] 2460 Shuttles 2238 Rookie Ships THEY KILL NUBS NERF THEM Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:25:00 - [6] 2 Dreadnaughts 9 Carriers 26 Freighters 3451 Battleships 3955 Battle Cruisers 360 Elite Battle Cruisers 5015 Cruisers 1058 Elite Cruisers PRIVS ARE UBER Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:26:00 - [7] 13,086 pods We won - CCP interveened Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:42:00 - [8] Edited by: Le Skunk on 26/06/2007 23:42:50 Originally by: Mysticaa Originally by: Le Skunk Like ive told you many times before.. POST THE COMPLETE STATS TOTAL KILLS: 43,519 SOLO (1 v 1 KILLS): 21,394 2 Dreadnaughts 9 Carriers 26 Freighters 3451 Battleships 3955 Battle Cruisers 360 Elite Battle Cruisers 5015 Cruisers 1058 Elite Cruisers 839 Destroyers 148 Elite Destroyers 3615 Frigates 2965 Elite Frigates 3346 Industrials 224 Transports 528 Barges 50 Elite Mining Barges 2460 Shuttles 2238 Rookie Ships Take what you want from them.. you can support many things SKUNK EDIT 13,086 pods - We pod you . you whine. SKUNK PS Wow and you are proud of those stats? You do realize that over 50% of your kills are Non-Combatants! Like i said - take these stas how you like - 50% were NOT non combatenets (big % for a noob ganker griefer alliance). And like someobody else said - How mayn 0.0 Big hard men alliance will let a shuttle/hauler/noobship in a bubble though. Ohh geoffrey its ok its a hauler - lets let him go Ill tell you... none SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:56:00 - [9] Edited by: Le Skunk on 26/06/2007 23:55:49 Originally by: Mysticaa Originally by: Le Skunk Like i said - take these stas how you like - 50% were NOT non combatenets (big % for a noob ganker griefer alliance). And like someobody else said - How mayn 0.0 Big hard men alliance will let a shuttle/hauler/noobship in a bubble though. Ohh geoffrey its ok its a hauler - lets let him go Ill tell you... none SKUNK EDIT: Take a look at this - a 'enemy' report of a week at war with the privs - its very fair http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=507326 But we are not talking about 0.0 are we? We were talking about Privateers and their Empire ganking. All is fair in 0.0. Anybody we wardecced had 24 hours to drop their corp/alliance and they were SAFE. ANy one who chose not to do so had to depend on their alliance to protect them .. (which they didnt) so they depended on their corp to protect them (which they didnt) so they depended on some basic common sense to survive..... If you died.... Who you got to blame? CCP was the answer for the weak SKUNK EDIT: I lub all privs o/ Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:08:00 - [10] Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/06/2007 00:09:38 Originally by: Mysticaa lol So CCP fixes a loophole in the game mechanics and you think everyone else is weak? If CCP had wanted the kind of warfare Priv was playing they would not have changed it. You were preying on the weak and defensless. Forcing other people to play your style of game is not what this game is about. If so there would be no high sec space and we would all be playing in 0.0 space. Please feel free to ignore all my points. I personally lost 154 ships in the privs to these 'poor defensless idiot noobs in shuttles and haulers'. Many of my collegues had simiar losses (ok so maybee i was that bad :) ) All my isk went back into the alliance i believed in it so much. Like I said when we declared war on the top alliance in the game - people have made up their mind one way or the other by now - and it still holds true 2 months after the nerf. Whatever you beleive.... CCP reneged about their free galaxy which ' isnt supposed to just look cold and hard - but is supposed to be cold and hard.. this isnt hello kitty online' As surreptitious said - they deliberatly targetted 800 paying customers in the first deliberate attempt of the 'gods' to break an entire alliance. Good for them. Great game. Luckily they got a lot of addicts. As many people say - its 'their' game. Im just **ed that the 'mystery' dev who will never be mentioned didnt have enough clout to change - unlike some other alliances (and i dont mean cheating - i mean arguing our case to the company) SKUNK SKUNK Originally by:** Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:16:00 - [11] Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/06/2007 00:15:13 Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Crazy Tasty Quote: Grow some balls go live in 0.0 I wish I had a buck for every time someone said that. Maybe you never considered that alot of people have no interest in most of the activites that go along with 0.0. Yet those that lived in high sec had to put up with the crap that the Privateers brought with them into high sec. Maybe YOU never considered that alot of people have no interest in turning high sec into a 0.0 gankfest. Many people are concerned with their own wallets.. and thats as far as it goes. Look at me in my faction fitted faction ship - arnt i the big boy. They deserve to be popped SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Le Skunk Many people are concerned with their own wallets.. and thats as far as it goes. Look at me in my faction fitted faction ship - arnt i the big boy. They deserve to be popped SKUNK Yes, as you were concerned with Uber ganks in high sec space. You deserved to be nerfed. Well - I counter by saying a LOT of people fought us in game and did very well When some poor noob would pay me to wardec certain alliances on bahelf of the privateer alliance - I cringed. I knew they would bring it - and make us pay for the dec. But we still stood up for the little man and placed the dec. Certain alliance would regullaly spank us - but we still honoured our decs and fought to defend our ethics. SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Le Skunk Well - I counter by saying a LOT of people fought us in game and did very well When some poor noob would pay me to wardec certain alliances on bahelf of the privateer alliance - I cringed. I knew they would bring it - and make us pay for the dec. But we still stood up for the little man and placed the dec. Certain alliance would regullaly spank us - but we still honoured our decs and fought to defend our ethics. SKUNK So then allow me to ask, since you always bring up the 'plight of the little man'. If an alliance paid you to dec a corporation, did you consider which side was 'bullying' whom? Yes it was considered. For example: Eve Uni (a popular 'noob' corp) were declared off limits by our CEO after discussion with their CEO. Surreptitious publicly declared his admiration for thier work on a in game public billboard interview for all to see (weirdly only a few week before the nerf!?) In fact - many EUNI guys were crying out for a fight after we wouldnt dec them both in forums and out. Also it is of note that the ENUI guys were probaly one of the most effective forces againt us when they were decced - proving you didnt need to be full of uber pilots to combat us - just a bit of effort would do. Or you could cry to ccp and get us nerfed - sup to you. SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Exlegion I don't doubt that Surreptitious might have at one point declared E-UNI off limits as I do recall such a thread in the forums. With that said, I did find this thread on a previous war dec between E-UNI and Privateers where Surreptitious admits war deccing UNI based on a contract: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=460771&page=1#16 I recall Privateers being asked by the community to keep E-UNI off limits, since it was considered a newbie alliance helping students adapt into the game. I seriously doubt there were other exceptions made, unless of course, you could correct me on that. And in reference to your second quote on my post, I don't mean "Me PVP against YOU". I meant it to say there are players eagerly looking for fights where I operate. Even though I live in low sec, PVP is not my thing. I do, however, accept it as part of the game, especially in the system I live in. See - you are showing our ignorance - EUNI was declared off limits during their birthday week so as not to damage the vaunted 'community' Then - they were declared off limits fullstop -- To the great annoyance of many EUNI pilots who had there first experience of any excitment in this game fighting us. Community? Check any privateer thread youll notice a large proportion of your 'community' never wanted us nerfed in the first place. You mean the inbreed idiot multi alt carebear community (of which you are one) which forms a small percantege of the Eve player base as a whole. SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:25:00 - [15] Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/06/2007 01:24:58 Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Le Skunk You mean the inbreed idiot multi alt carebear community (of which you are one) which forms a small percantege of the Eve player base as a whole. SKUNK Yes, insult me, because your point is driven across so much better when you resort to personal attacks. No really . Please feel free to ignore all my points and pick out one sentance - Then wonder why i lump you in with the small percentage of the player base as a whole who likes to fight on the forums SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:29:00 - [16] Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/06/2007 01:29:23 Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 27/06/2007 01:26:25 It's not about who lost what, or whether Eve is a cold, hard, combat centered game or a "carebear" game. The war declaration system was broken, you abused it, and now it has been fixed. It's ridiculous that an alliance can war declare so many people and then charge corporations to join for a period so they can have a share of all of those juicy targets in high-sec. It's abuse of game mechanics and makes a mockery of the Eve game world, and how it is set up. Yes, high-sec is not meant to be perfectly safe, but it is meant to be a reasonably safe and lawful place under the protection of the police forces of Concord and the different nations of Eve. A few war declarations is fine and fits in with the game world, but when you do it on that scale it's breaking the game. MR i fight in 0.0 has shown up agin with his 2 pod deaths and 3 ships deaths to back up his I lost mr faction raven and i hurt friend SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:38:00 - [17] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Le Skunk: You have not replied to the point I brought up: "There was simply no winning (as in winning the war) against Privateers. Fighting you didn't really do anything to force you to end the war, and in fact, increased the chances of prolonging it. THAT is what was borked with Privateers: your wars didn't have a purpose, so they could not be won by those you decced (as Privateers had no strategic objectives... at least none that we were aware of). CCP realised this, and nerfed you for it. I don't think the whinning carebears actually had much to do with this." What do you say to this? Well an interesting point amongst a bunch of whiners Any privateer is in a position to answer this and me as the short time CEO and long time fighter may be in a better position then many. Simple answer : Yes - we could be beaten in game without resorting to forum whining. Complicated answer: Can you defeat BoB? Well the answer again is yes. It would take you a lot of effort and resources - but the potentail in game is there. CCP have provided the opportunitys in game to defeat anybody if the will is there. Any alliance can fall if the player base deem it as a neccesary goal. However - the general playerbase did NOT deem it a neccesary goal. A small percentage of 'forum warriors' did - and took it outside of the game - whined - and got us nerfed - the first time CCP specifically aimed their wrath at an allaince (alliance P for those with short memorys) As a Privateer - i knew EXACLTY what troubled me in game and i know EXACLTY what could have been done to make the allaince unworkable. Some attempted it and came some way to achieving it. Wouldnt it have been nice if this 'cold hard world' could have defeated this such hated alliance all on their own - without crying to mummy SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 04:05:00 - [18] Originally by: Siege Do ANY wars in Empire space have a purpose? If that was the logic, then why allow anything at all? Why not just eliminate all the wars, since there is no real point to them? Allow NO pvp in empire space, if they need to have a reason and goals for it. And it's a total fallicy that there was no way to "win" against the Privateers. They were outnumbered in such an ungodly amount that it would have been easy to squash them into the ground and make people leave their alliance. Skunk, wasn't it something like 50,000 vs 700 in your final week? And your guys were complaining that even with that much of an imbalance, that everybody was still avoiding them. Great points, though i think it was 70,000 vs 700 And for those that say - well most of them were in 0.0 i answer this If 70,000 people had tried to wipe us out you think we would have survived? But 70,000 people didnt deem it importnat. 100 people on the forums did and CCP bowed to them SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 04:13:00 - [19] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire What is the problem again? It is not like you can't war dec at all in this patch. PA could war dec about 10 alliances before deccing becomes *unprofitable. 10 war decs is out of the reach of the little man to afford. In facts its out of the reach of most allisnces to sustain. And there are a LOT more then 10 allainces hoggin 0.0 space, grabbing all the mins, popping all the rats, then expecting to come to Empire on a AFK jolly knees up and mine veld - popping a few empire dwellers on the way. SKUNK Originally by:* Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 05:59:00 - [20] Originally by: Whineroy blah Whineory doesnt post with his main so is ignored SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 13:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Exlegion Privateers was NOT about defending the little corps. Privateers was NOT about even/fair PVP. Privateers unbalanced the High Sec > Low Sec > 0.0 security system. 6 pages in this thread and you still fail at disproving the above points. The least you could do is admit what you were about. But of course, admitting to this will not bring much sympathy to your cause. If this game doesn't allow you to have fun any more, then perhaps it's time leave? Think about it, the only way you enjoy the game is by exploiting holes and breaks within the game. What does that tell you? This game is not meant for you. Stop blaming carebears for your misery and find a game where you can enjoy what you do without being nerfed. Failed? How this for failure: You had 24 hours warning when you were wardeced to drop your alliance and become invunerable .. this you chose not to do So it was up to your Alliance to protect you.... this they did not to So it was up your corp to protect you..... this they did not do So it was left to you to take some simple measures to protect yourself... this you did not do. You got your raven blown up whilst mission horing in motsu. Since then youve taken ever opportunity to post about us. Youve ignored ALL my specific counters to you points. You have taken a totally biased and judgemental standpoint like none other. Ill reply to your points one more time. Quote: 1)Privateers was NOT about defending the little corps. 2)Privateers was NOT about even/fair PVP. 3)Privateers unbalanced the High Sec > Low Sec > 0.0 security system. 1) The privateer alliance was the cheapest option for a corp under attacking needing assistance. We made NO profit from this. Many small corps used us. We would often go many jumps to assist them. I personally went 30 jumps in my domi to assist one small corp. When CCP nerfed us - many of the small corps we were assisting were left in the lurch - and had to disand their corps with no one to help defend them. 2) For some Privateers WAS about even/fair PvP of a type you rarely get in lowsec/0.0 (bubbles capships etc). We wardecced the biggest PvP in the alliance in the game. We regually engaged forces bigger then or equal to our own. We had some great fights with various Alliances willing to defend themselves - and most had a great attitude. Ive posted a fair battle report from an 'enemy alliance' which you ignore. We were camped into station in vast numbers, we were ganked on gates 30v1. Many of my collegues lost a lot of isk - and where in the alliance for the fun of even fights/hit an run against superior forces. For others it was about loot. For others it involved a new roleplay aspect not offered elsewhere in game. For some it was for cheap kills. For some it was a poke in the eye for the big allianes. However - If a WT hauler ran past a any camp - it was killed and its loot taken. This is in common with Every Alliance in the game. So sue us. 3) The system is totally unbalanced as it is. People like you can sit in Motsu in your guicci raven running the same mission over and over and over and over and make more isk then the guy out in 0.0. You have absolutly no risk - and all the reward. Im glad that, for a short time, some risk was brought into your isk hoarding - and you got popped. SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 13:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson Perhaps the one claim to fame that PA can have is that, not only did they overstep the line, the line was so far behind them it couldn't be seen. Lol :) SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 13:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Omega Man LeSkunk, ever wondered how the pub bore everyone avoids got that way? Usually they had a moment in the limelight, lost it, and never recovered. Welcome to your world. Im doing people the common curtesy of responding to points THEY brought up - and yes i do find it boring. In your 'pub' - Im the bore happily reading the newspaper and having a pint when someone runs in and screams "YOUR A MURDERING SCAM ARTIST" in my face. Of course im goging to respond. And in this pub you are the red faced short assed alt in the corner who continuly bemoans how booooorring this pub is yet still comes down every friday.Seriously - your continued haunting of any thread with Privateer in the title with two line pithy comments with no substance demeans you. SKUNK Oh and as always - be a man and post with your main :) Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 14:05:00 - [24] Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/06/2007 14:06:49 Originally by: Exlegion Edited by: Exlegion on 27/06/2007 14:01:07 Sigh, Le Skunk, for an information minister to the Privateers, you suck at even lying: Here you will find the date I was attacked by the Privateers: http://privateer.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Exlegion April 25, 2007. Here you will find a thread of me expressing my opinion on the Privateers: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=497497&page=5#146 March 27, 2007. Notice how my sentiments are the same, before and after the war dec on my alliance. If you're going to lie, atleast make an effort to make it seem true. I refer you to my post 4 above yours - where i answered all your queries. You ignored ALL my points. Again. Please print it - cut it out and attach it to a piece of card. Leave it in the toilet for reading material. Goodbe SKUNK EDIT: I am not the information 'minister' for the privateers. Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.06.27 14:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Le Skunk You got your raven blown up whilst mission horing in motsu. Since then youve taken ever opportunity to post about us. See my post above where I explicitly point you to a thread BEFORE the war dec on my alliance. Lied much lately? Well - on this point (seeing as you are labouring it)- lets look at it in detail You got your raven blown up whilst mission horing in motsu This as we both agree, is fact. (so no lie there from me) Since then youve taken ever opportunity to post about us. In every thread with a Privateer theme since you were blown up you have taken the opportunity to have a dig at us. Multiple posts in multiple threads. You HAVE taken every opportunity to post about us. (so no lie there either) End Result: No lie from me Quote: I can just feel your hate on this one. Does it bother you that I choose to build my assets while you choose to destroy them? Stop hating on the mission runners and run missions yourself, if you think we're so well off. I seriously dont hate you or anyone in this game. Its a game after all. Probably more correct would be to say I gained some small satisfaction from your ship loss akin to a football team scoring a goal. SKUNK Originally by: Fink Angel They acted like Mr. Creasote at the all you can eat buffet, and CCP provided the Wafer Theeen Mint.

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